Am I an Employee or Founder???

Attorney Mary Russell counsels individuals on startup equity, including:

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Originally published April 23, 2013. Updated August 3, 2023 and November 1, 2023.

Quora Question:

Why do startups have an exponential drop-off in equity for employees? I've never heard a reasonable explanation of why there should be exponential drop-off in equity compensation based on joining time in a startup (vs. linear, for example). Obviously you need some time function to push prospective employees to make the jump when they are earning below-market salary, but is there a good reason why the drop-off is often exponential?

November 2023 Update: Great info on this point for technical co-founders / early employees from YC in this video called How Not to Get Screwed Over as a Software Engineer.

Stock Option Counsel Answer:

The Gray Area -- Revealed!

This is a great question because it reveals a truth: The difference between a founder and an early employee is gray, not black and white. There is not a true difference that would allow an exponential difference to be appropriate.

A Thinking Trick

It is very useful for an employee to reverse the exponential drop logic the company may use -- how much more than zero should this "employee" receive -- to acknowledge the gray area by thinking along the lines of "How much less than a founder should I receive?" While it is unlikely for an employee to come in at close to founder level, that should be ideal starting point to work from in your mental calculation of what is appropriate and will inspire you to perform at a founder level.

Founder Delusions

And remember that founders are notoriously delusional about how soon they will be funded, so don't drink the Kool-Aid. I see companies try to grant employee-level equity before a funding on the promise that they are "just about to be funded." They promise salaries that will be "deferred" until funding and try to bring on "first employees." If you're not getting paid a startup-phase-market-level salary today, you are not at an employee's level of risk. Be sure you are granted founder-level equity if you have founder-level risk.

Data Sets

Data sets on employee and executive offer percentages for early stage startups can be misleading and encourage companies to make unrealistically low offers to early hires. There’s two reasons for this. First, these data sets are for employees who are earning something like market level salaries along with equity. Second, these data sets exclude anyone classified as a “founder” from the data set for employees. They keep different data sets for founders! So the gray area between the two classifications makes the use of data tricky. Who is a founder for purposes of the data set? Depends on the data set. Carta, for instance, excludes anyone with 5% or more from the employee/executive data set and classifies them as founders! Even if they are earning market-level cash from their start date.

How to Think About This

Here’s the bottom line:

  1. If you are joining before you are being paid startup-phase-market-level cash salary, you are a late stage founder. You should evaluate your equity percentage relative to the other founders within the company or within the market data set.

  2. If you are joining for a combination of cash and equity at an early stage startup, the offer should make sense to you. Simply pointing to market data for the right % ownership is not enough. You’ll want to consider the market data for % ownership in conjunction with the dollar value of the equity based on how investors have most recently valued the company.

More here.

Link to Quora Q&A: https://www.quora.com/Startups/Why-do-startups-have-an-exponential-drop-off-in-equity-for-employees .

Attorney Mary Russell counsels individuals on startup equity, including:

You are welcome to contact her at (650) 326-3412 or at info@stockoptioncounsel.com.

Mary Russell

Mary Russell is an attorney and writer who writes about stock options and other compensation for startup employees, executives and founders. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Bloomberg Business, Reuters, myStockOptions.com and other outlets.

She counsels individuals on startup equity, including:

Compensation Counsel - Job Offers
Legal Counsel - Job Offers

Legal Counsel - Equity Choices

You are welcome to contact her at (650) 326-3412 or at info@stockoptioncounsel.com.

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