Negotiating the Right Job Offer – Long Form Q&A Between Stock Option Counsel and BINC Search

Thanks for reading our shorter blog post: Bull's Eye - Negotiating the Right Job Offer. This is the full Q&A between Mary Russell and Boris Epstein. It’s long, but it’s full of lots of insights on how to negotiate the right compensation offer from a company.

Mary Russell counsels individual employees and founders to negotiate, maximize and monetize their stock options and other startup stock. She is an attorney and the founder of Stock Option Counsel.

Boris Epstein is the founder of BINC Search, a next-generation recruiting startup that helps Silicon Valley companies hire technical talent at the scale they need.

Mary Russell, Attorney @ Stock Option Counsel: Welcome, Boris. I’ve always enjoyed our discussions on compensation negotiations because you seem to believe that a candidate and a company can discover a “right offer.” Employees who come to me for Stock Option Counsel want to get to that “right offer” for salary and equity, and I’m happy you’ve joined us to share your perspective on how to get there.

Boris Epstein, Founder @ BINC Search: Thank you. I think there is a right offer in a compensation negotiation, and companies and candidates arrive there by identifying four data points:

1.     The candidate’s Past Comp

2.     The Peer Comp of the candidate’s level within the company

3.     The candidate’s Desired Comp and

4.     The Market Comp or competitive scenarios in the market

The epicenter of all the different data points would be what they would arrive at to get a right offer. So if all four numbers align, it’s really easy. If the four numbers are divergent in some way, then someone’s going to have to make tradeoffs and concessions. If the person’s making $100,000 but then they want $200,000, and market’s $150,000, someone’s going to have to make a tradeoff somewhere to arrive at the right package.

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Negotiating Equity @ a Startup – Stock Option Counsel Tips

Negotiating an offer from a startup? Here's some tips. For more information on how Stock Option Counsel serves employees who are negotiating their offers, contact us or see our intro video here> . 

1. Know How Much Equity You Want

For employees early in their careers, the only negotiable terms for equity are the number of shares of stock and, possibly, the vesting schedule. The company will already have defined the form in which you will earn those shares, such as stock options, restricted stock units or restricted stock.

Your task in negotiating equity is to know how many shares would make the offer appealing to you or better than your other offers. If you don’t know what you want for equity, the company will be happy to tell you that you don’t want much.

Your desired number of shares should be the result of thoughtful consideration of the equity offer. There is no simple way to evaluate equity, but understanding the concepts and playing with the numbers should give you the power to decide how many shares you want.

One way to compare offers and evaluate equity is to find the current VC valuation of the preferred shares in the company. If a VC has recently paid $10 per share for the company’s stock, and you have been offered 10,000 shares, you can use $100,000 to compare to other offers. If another company has offered you 20,000 shares, and a VC has recently paid $5 for their shares, you could use those numbers to compare the offers.  For more info on finding VC valuations, see: Startup Valuation Basics or contact Stock Option Counsel. For more on early stage startups that do not have VC valuations, see this post. 

Remember that the purpose of this exercise is not to have a precise dollar value for the offer, but to answer these questions: How does this offer compare to other offers or my current position? What salary and number of shares at this company would make this a stable, sustainable relationship for me? In other words, will this keep me happy here for some time? If not, it is in nobody’s best interest to come to a deal on that package.

For more information on negotiating equity, see our video: Negotiate the Right Stock Option Offer or our blog with Boris Epstein of BINC Search: Negotiate the Right Job Offer.

2. Look for Tricky Legal Terms That Limit Your Shares' Value

There are some key legal terms that can diminish the value of your equity grant. Pay careful attention to these, as some are harsh enough that it makes sense to walk away from an equity offer.  

If you receive your specific equity grant documents before you are hired, such as the Equity Incentive Plan or Stock Option Plan, you can ask an attorney to read them.

If you don’t have the documents, you will have to wait until after you are hired to study the terms. But you can ask some general questions during the negotiation to flush out the tricky terms. For example, will the company have any repurchase rights or forfeiture rights for vested shares? Does the equity plan limit the kinds of exit events in which I can participate? What happens to my equity if I leave the company?

3.     Evaluate the Equity’s Potential

Evaluate the company to know how many shares would make the equity offer worth your time. You can start by asking the company some basic questions on their expectations for future growth and the exit timeline.

The higher your rank in the company and the stronger your emphasis on these matters, the more likely you are to speak to the CEO, CFO or someone else at the company who can answer these questions. If you want more resources to help you think like a startup investor, there are great online resources on valuation, dilution and exits for startups.

But don’t place too much weight on the company’s predictions of the equity’s potential value, especially if those values are based on an early-stage company’s Discounted Cash Flows (DCF). Even the experts know that the only thing early stage startups know about financial projections is that they are wrong.

Stock Option Counsel

Stock Option Counsel provides legal services for individual employees and founders in negotiating, evaluating and monetizing employee stock.

Employees rely on Stock Option Counsel in: (a) evaluation and negotiation of employee equity offers; (b) identifying unusual terms in equity documents; (c) legal matters for sales of shares to third parties; (d) negotiation of employment offers after acquisitions and (e) disputes regarding equity and payouts at exits.

Founders rely on Stock Option Counsel in: (a) protecting their personal interests at incorporation, financings and exits; (b) coaching for their VC negotiations by bringing them to mastery of financing and exit deal terms; (c) managing friction between co-founders; (d) negotiating employment offers after acquisitions and (e) disputes regarding equity and payouts at exits.

For more information on Stock Option Counsel, contact us or see our intro video here>

Best of Blogs: How to Value and Negotiate Startup Stock Options

We have suggested the following free resources to Stock Option Counsel clients to help them master this area and gain confidence in negotiating their stock options and other employee stock. We hope you find this list helpful and invite you to contact us to find out how Stock Option Counsel can help you evaluate and maximize your startup stock compensation. Contact>

1. David Weekly's  An Introduction to Stock & Options for the Tech Entrepreneur or Startup Employee

2. Venture Hacks' I have a job offer at a startup, am I getting a good deal?

3. Andy Payne's Startup Equity for Employees 

4. John Greathouse's What The Heck Are My Startup Stock Options Worth?! Seven Questions You Should Ask Before Joining A Startup

5. Wealthfront's Startup Salary and Equity Compensation Calculator (This is very general but people find it helpful.) And Wealthfront's The Right Way to Grant Equity to Your Employees.

6. Patrick McKenzie of Kalzumeus Software's Salary Negotiation: Make More Money, Be More Valued

7. Piaw Na's Negotiating Compensation, from An Engineer's Guide to Silicon Valley Startups

8. mystockoptions.com's How does a private company decide on the size of a stock grant? (You may have to create a login)  

9. Michelle Wetzler's How I Negotiated My Startup Compensation

10. Mary Russell's Video Negotiate the Right Startup Stock Option Offer, based on Mary Russell and Boris Epstein's Bull's Eye: Negotiate the Right Job Offer

11. Robby Grossman's Negotiating Your Startup Job Offer

12. Mary Russell's Joining An Early Stage Startup? Negotiate Your Salary and Equity with Stock Option Counsel Tips

13. Mary Russell's RSUs: Startup Restricted Stock Units: What You Need to Know

Need more help? Stock Option Counsel provides legal services for employees, executives and independent contractors. Employees and executives rely on Stock Option Counsel's expert advice in their startup stock option matters to correct the imbalance of information and expertise in this area that can cause the uninformed to lose out on high value opportunities. We counsel clients during their compensation negotiations, their exercise choices and the sale of their shares. We also work with clients who are in disputes with employers or cofounders regarding their stock options, other equity compensation or intellectual property and help them resolve the issues in their favor.

Contact> us if you are interested in Stock Option Counsel. It works best to set up a 15 minute call so we can hear about your situation and describe how we would help as Stock Option Counsel. Alternatively, you can send us a message with your questions and we will respond and tell you how Stock Option Counsel could be valuable to you. Contact>

Negotiation Rhythms #2: Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement

Mary Russell counsels individual employees and founders to negotiate, maximize and monetize their stock options and other startup stock. She is an attorney and the founder of Stock Option Counsel. You are welcome to contact Stock Option Counsel at info@stockoptioncounsel or (650) 326-3412.

We know we want to push beyond our limits to capture as much value as possible in a negotiation. But how do we define those limits? It takes a five-word phrase to bring this concept into focus: Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement (“BATNA”).

The BATNA for a car buyer might be the same car at a nearby dealership for $20,000. The BATNA for a home seller might be an offer from another party for $1 million. The BATNA for a child trading baseball cards might be to hold onto his favorite cards and enjoy looking at them rather than to trade them away.

 

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Any agreement below (or, for a maximum limit, above) a BATNA would leave the negotiator worse off than in the absence of that particular agreement. Said another way, the negotiator would be better off with some other option – their BATNA – than accepting an agreement on those terms.

 

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To properly identify a BATNA, we must do a lot of calculating, daydreaming, and going out in the world to test alternatives. But this creative process is necessary. When we believe that the only alternative is the one at hand, our negotiation position is dangerously weak. It is also dangerously ineffective because it leads to an arrangement that does not, in fact, make the negotiator better off than without it. And any deal that is not in both parties’ best interests is unstable and likely to collapse after it is made.

Countless factors go into naming and ranking one’s alternatives to arrive at a BATNA, and even then it is impossible to do so clearly as those factors cannot all be outlined in numerical format. A better offer might be less certain of being completed, so it might be more advantageous to make an agreement on less favorable terms today. For example, the other job offer might not be certain even though it appears it would be more advantageous if it were finalized. This is the old saying that a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush, and this can be dangerous for those who optimistically negotiate as if their imaginary alternatives are already in the hand. In the other extreme, this is very limiting for those who are very fearful of uncertainty, as they will accept disadvantageous terms for the simple purpose of having certain terms when a bit of risk in pursuit of a better alternative could have led to greater results.

Timing is important in other ways as well, as a negotiator with more time to come to an agreement will have more chances to find alternatives to the agreement at hand. "Wait and see" becomes a BATNA in itself. The opposite of this would be a party who must have resolution today, which would, of course, limit the alternatives.

Beyond hard limits on time, some people do not enjoy the back and forth process of negotiating. They might prefer to take this deal, and even to accept much less of the middle than is possible to capture, than to continue to seek alternatives or negotiate deals. For these people, the process itself inhibits the growth of BATNAs.

We’ll see in the next post – Negotiation Rhythms #3: Sales & Threats – how brainstorming or eliminating BATNAs changes the ZOPA and improves or weakens our force in negotiation.

Mary Russell counsels individual employees and founders to negotiate, maximize and monetize their stock options and other startup stock. She is an attorney and the founder of Stock Option Counsel. You are welcome to contact Stock Option Counsel at info@stockoptioncounsel or (650) 326-3412.

Startup Negotiation: Know the Game

Mary Russell counsels individual employees and founders to negotiate, maximize and monetize their stock options and other startup stock. She is an attorney and the founder of Stock Option Counsel.

Craps is the best game in a casino. The house odds are very low at around 0.6%. When you’re rolling and you’re hot you can make big money for everyone at the table. And when you’re cold it doesn’t take long for your turn to end and the dice to move to someone who might get hot!

The same is true for Silicon Valley. It is arguably the only place where employees can strike it rich. Employees become rollers here, making the enterprise happen and enjoying some of the upside of the business through employee equity.

But the odds in craps can be even worse than double zero roulette if you don’t choose the right bets. There are about 120 to choose from, and the people who win know the game and know the risks they’re taking with each bet.

This is a list of casino-style descriptions of a bet on stock options, RSUs or ESPPs. We’ll give each a more thorough look (and pay attention to the great casino king Uncle Sam’s take) in later posts. To keep it simple, these presume that the vesting time/terms have been met by the player.

Stock Options: Player wins cash if (1) player pays cash exercise price to company before/when leaving the company and before the expiration date of the option; (2) company gives permission for or requires player to sell shares (on secondary market, at IPO, at sale of company, etc.); and (3) player sells shares at a price greater than the exercise price. Player loses the exercise price cash if (2) and (3) are not met.

RSUs (“Restricted Stock Units”): Player wins cash when (1) company settles the RSUs in shares of common stock (aka company gives player common stock) and (2) player sells the shares.

ESPPs (“Employee Stock Purchase Plans”): Player wins cash if (1) player makes cash payroll contribution; (2) company converts player’s cash to shares on purchase date (# of shares = cash/conversion price); (3) player sells shares at a price greater than the conversion price. Player loses cash if player sells shares below the conversion price.

Of course, this post does not include the 1000 disclaimers that would be necessary to cover every possible Stock Option/RSU/ESPP plan or equity compensation bet. But it should be a good place to start for employees trying to know the game.